Logarithmical inequality

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    Okay, so I almost solved that one

    I found x² - 2x -2 < 0
    so x = 1 + sqrt(3)
    or x = 1 - sqrt(3)

    since I was looking for the values that returned a number less than 0, I thought that it would be
    x > 1 - sqrt(3) and x < 1 + sqrt(3)

    but the answer sheet says it's 2 and 1 + sqrt(3)

    WHERE DID THAT 2 CAME FROM???
     
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    log(2,x)+log(1/2,(x+1))>log(2,(x-2)).......change to base 10

    log(x)/log(2)+log(x+1)/log(1/2)>log(x-2)/log(2).....since log(1/2)=log(1)-log(2)=0-log(2)=log(2) we have

    log(x)/log(2)-log(x+1)/log(2)>log(x-2)/log(2).........since all denominators same

    log(x)-log(x+1)>log(x-2)

    log(x/(x+1))-log(x-2)>0

    log((x/(x+1))/(x-2))>0

    log(x/(x^2 - x - 2))>0

    (x^2 - 2x - 2)/((x - 2) (x + 1))<0

    Real solutions:

    -1<x<1 - sqrt(3)
    2<x<1 + sqrt(3)
     
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    thank you very much, ma'am!! :D
    what do you think about my answer?
    instead of changing them to base 10, I changed the log(1/2,(x+1)) to base 2, which gave me "- log(2,(x+1))" do you think that would work?
     
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    that is same changing them to base 10, you just made shortcut :)
     
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    I just don't get that part right here

    "log(x/(x^2 - x - 2))>0

    (x^2 - 2x - 2)/((x - 2) (x + 1))<0"

    do you mind explaining that a little bit?

    I mean, I can see how we get to "log(x/(x^2 - x - 2))>0 ", I could do that in base 2

    but how x/(x-2)(x+1) becomes (x^2 - 2x - 2)/((x - 2) (x + 1)) ? T_T
     
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    log(2,x)+log(1/2,(x+1))>log(2,(x-2))

    log(2,x)-log(2,(x-2))-log(2,(x+1))>0

    log(2,x/(x-2))-log(2,(x+1))>0

    log(2,x/(x-2))>log(2,(x+1))

    we know that x>2 (denominator cannot be zero)

    now apply log rule:

    x/(x-2)> x+1 and x+1>0

    x> (x-2)(x+1 )
    x> x^2 - x - 2
    0> x^2 - x - 2-x ............we just flip the sides

    x^2 - 2x - 2 <0-> x = 1 - sqrt(3) or x = 1 + sqrt(3)->

    and x+1>0 -> and x>-1

    so, solution is:
    -1<x<1 - sqrt(3)
    2<x<1 + sqrt(3)
     
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    aaaahh, I see! I was forgetting to check the conditions of existence every time (making sure I'm not dividing by zero/ that the argument of the logarithm itself is greater than 0)
    now everything makes sense
     
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